06-30-2018, 10:16 AM
the over sixty class has always had less drivers but if you consider the age limit you'd see why that happens.
new ones show up but others get old enough to not want to run a class at all!
plus over sixty seems to be centered around ohio and was originally set up to cater to a bunch of older drivers in that area.
they wanted to run grids without the hassle of younger guys out there to win at all costs.
to me Vintage Karting is about the whole sport, building the kart back up from a barn find or where ever, seeing people you don't normally see , trading parts and running the equipment at speed.
it really doesn't need to be about winning a 3 dollar trophy at any cost including the era correct integrity of the sport
as far as the east coast goes we never had an over sixty class when i was involved in promoting.
i can't comment on recent events as i have only attended avon and i think there isn't a class for over sixty there either.
when Scott K. , then myself decided to promote events we both agreed that competition wasn't a serious goal.
we promoted good times , family time with karts and a chance to run your machines in a mildly competative way.
we discouraged aggressive racing as best we could and the events grew every year.
there was a faction that wanted racing and points they seem to have taken over the East Coast.
As time passes we will see how well that goes over in East Coast Vintage Karting.
btw
the current east coast promoters are welcome to share ALL that information but odds are we won't get it.
as far as i know the main guy Rick keller has NEVER posted anything on this forum.
Al p. has posted some info but hasn't lately as his account is , once again , not working.
we fix it and he gets access then ba-zing it f-s up again.
Al P's account seems to be cursed or maybe it's something to do with his access points.
between brian and i we've never figured out what is wrong.
as a work around maybe his son, chris can lend al p. his account so al can share the over sixty info if it's available.
but as i said we never really ran that class on the East Coast and that still may be true.
d
new ones show up but others get old enough to not want to run a class at all!
plus over sixty seems to be centered around ohio and was originally set up to cater to a bunch of older drivers in that area.
they wanted to run grids without the hassle of younger guys out there to win at all costs.
as far as "updating" engines and clutches.
in case anyone has forgotten the over sixty class has both rear engine karts and early sidewinders in the grid.
that means mccullochs and west bend mostly which are era correct , yamahas aren't for rear engined karts or for that matter the early side winders.
Since it was set up to reflect ERA CORRECT equipment modern, clutches, tires ,engines will KILL THE VIBE.
This whole idea of making things easier is always brought up by newbes in this sport.
i'll say this , your ideas about easier or cheaper are wrong headed and i'll never agree with them
To exchange main components because it's "easier or cheaper" has no place at all in Vintage Karting.
Modernizing equipment completely misses the whole point of Vintage Karting.
Vintage karting is about rebuilding an era correct kart and running it on the track with era correct equipment.
this is Vintage Karting not cheap obsolete wanna-be racing free for all.
the whole idea of vintage karting is to Promote Vintage Karting and by that i mean era correct VINTAGE KARTING.
that is done by running ERA CORRECT equipment, so take the time find the gear, run it respectfully , don't use the gear up at every event just to WIN.to me Vintage Karting is about the whole sport, building the kart back up from a barn find or where ever, seeing people you don't normally see , trading parts and running the equipment at speed.
it really doesn't need to be about winning a 3 dollar trophy at any cost including the era correct integrity of the sport
if you want a over sixty yamaha class that is fine.
but do it the right way.
gather up enough drivers
petition VKA for a new class
and
go for it.
as far as the east coast goes we never had an over sixty class when i was involved in promoting.
i can't comment on recent events as i have only attended avon and i think there isn't a class for over sixty there either.
when Scott K. , then myself decided to promote events we both agreed that competition wasn't a serious goal.
we promoted good times , family time with karts and a chance to run your machines in a mildly competative way.
we discouraged aggressive racing as best we could and the events grew every year.
there was a faction that wanted racing and points they seem to have taken over the East Coast.
As time passes we will see how well that goes over in East Coast Vintage Karting.
btw
the current east coast promoters are welcome to share ALL that information but odds are we won't get it.
as far as i know the main guy Rick keller has NEVER posted anything on this forum.
Al p. has posted some info but hasn't lately as his account is , once again , not working.
we fix it and he gets access then ba-zing it f-s up again.
Al P's account seems to be cursed or maybe it's something to do with his access points.
between brian and i we've never figured out what is wrong.
as a work around maybe his son, chris can lend al p. his account so al can share the over sixty info if it's available.
but as i said we never really ran that class on the East Coast and that still may be true.
d