Vintage Karting Forum

the poor Lil  stock 91 with box muffler dry clutch 87 proof corner store pump gas and 50 year old tires .... give all them guys fits ...
we had a great time close close action all day

Good deal!

What it is all about, Miller.

..first .,third .,fifth or dead last ..I have fun every time ...
I wasn't even gonna take the 6.1 ..I figured being so out gunned motor wise id be riding around by myself in tail end ..but to my surprise it ran very very well ..against twin carb alky piped motors with wet clutches and newer than 50 year old tires ..I woulda had first place trophy for the weekend sept I spun out leading all by myself ..but I came all way back to 2nd ..and that was as fun or better than winning ..Lol..
I guess parta my point is ..You Just Gotta Get Out on Track with Whatever ya got ...take all our words its fun ...

and the fact that you weight 130 pounds always helps a little...

but,,,fun is the key word...

gw

gary, and the facts really are that he tried telling big bill of south jersey that his kart was historic but his motor wasn't and that bill was in the wrong class but he weighs more than twice as much as steve and that bill whips on him every time that bill can keep his stuff running. bill had the pole in the last race but they slowed him down so much that he stalled and didn't finish in that race. face it steve big bill had you dead to rights and that he had you out gunned and out-classed. i hear you are in a frantic quest to build a bigger historic motor. don't worry steve for the next set of races i have a big bag of horse feed we can plop in your lap to even things up.

I did not get to  race one race in historic .. my mc20 sucked a metal reed during time trials ..
yes his mc45 on alky was faster than my bone stock mc20 and so wasn't rustys mc8
I did not know you could run an mc45 .,7 .,or an 8 in historic ..I guess im still following davids rules for cuddybeck ..
but I was informed anything up till 1964 ..??  .. I have 3 or 4 mc70s with factory duel carbs so im all set ..but ill keep it more fair using the 20 ....if I were worried about winning and making everyone cry more ...id buy a few pairs of tires not use 50 year old switch to alky port the piss outta my motors just for starters ..Lol..
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Steve, when did you become such a Mac fanatic?  I seem to recall you was always a die hard WB man.  What happened???

steve,
historic has or had three levels in vka.
historic 1 2 and 3 last time i looked in vka rules.
since historic three legal engines are light years faster than historic 1 i usually didn't allow them to run historic class.
those bigger engines are better placed in rear engine 100 cc class.

as it is allowing live axle mc6 and tens to compete against dead axle clintons and homelites make for a unevenly matched grid.
the dead axle karts have sort of brakes as opposed to live axles brakes ,add faster engines and you can have issues.
adding 100 cc engines capable of passing both the mc's and the true historic motors ads yet another layer of potential issues.
with wildly differing braking speeds and overtake rates with THREE DIFFERENT  styles of engines the grids can become dangerous.

while it mostly doesn't create a problem it only takes one bad move to create a wreck that could end our track access.
rather than risk everything we've worked so hard to get i'd rather see a few guys moved into grids that will make everyone better matched and a little safer.



there are some who might not be real happy with that but oh well.
the safety factor and fun factor is considerably better when the promoter steps in with performance consideration used when creating grids.

unfortunately there are many promoters that don't bother and just let the rules make the grids.
in my observations , those grids tend to be the ones with complaints and sometimes serious incidents happening.
my two cents others may dis agree.

kx sorry but you ain't no kid no more especially since i got a notice this morning that today is your birthday. happy birthday and many more. beings you have such a good attitude we'll forget about the 50lb bag of horse feed on your lap. but bill is so happy with all the parts he's gotten from me this year i got this from his personal stash. so just call me rm that falls on my ass. haven't been on one for 30 years. looking forward to trying it again.

Thanks for b day wishes ..
wow that's awesome ..be careful and you will have fun on it ..
bills kart ran great ..he was having a blast ..I hope he comes back ..
I will have to say the pace laps were a Lil crazy ..
in the 6.1 class I was almost race pace trying to keep up ...
and I herd complaints in the other classes ....specially historic ..
if everything keeps going half way decent I may be able to attend couple more events next year ..